reduce pain during lockup

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reduce pain during lockup
« on: May 11, 2021, 07:49:45 PM »
Hi all,
with all the different cages i've tried I experience a light but anoying pain at the under side of the base ring. the pain appears after a few hours after installing it. in my opinion the ring is big enough in diameter to fit round my balls.
I tried some local massage to make the pain go away and body salve too but they do not help.
I'm afraid it could do damage in the long run if i keep wearing it like this.

Anyone gat any tips for me?
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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2021, 08:01:22 PM »
Do you use some lube at the base of the ring?
Baby oil Gel, coconut oil, vaseline...
And re-apply several time during the day and very important just before going to bed...
That help the skin to move and ease on the pain caused be chaffing. 
A ring to wide will cause more chaffing but a too small will cause skin fold pinching...

Also with time, your body gets used to it and the pain subside...



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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 08:14:15 PM »
in my experience it's not realy a matter of chafing, because the ring does not move over the skin. the pain is more likely to be under the skin, like vains being pushed at. but than again the diameter seems to be correct and not too tight.
Nevertheless i will try to apply salves like baby oil or vaseline to see the effect.

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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2021, 03:02:28 PM »
hi furlocker sorry to hear about your ring problem, ball trap devices are difficult at the best of times are you using a solid ring or a hinge ring as I have had a similar issue with one of my subs in the past that found a hinged ring to be unconfutable not sure what else to advise, in terms of ring size if you can cant fit your middle finger under the ring to the first knuckle then the ring is to small! was a pleasure to have you in my lock the other day BTW and if you are ever in my locks again and are having problems with your device please talk to me on discord.   
mean but nice curriouslhock on recon

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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2021, 07:52:41 PM »
I use a full ring and not a hinge version. it's a K3D cobra. I ordered it with 2 base rings, which i\m changing every few days to see what fits best for me. The advice that was already given to me to use vaseline seems to help a bit.

It was a pleasure to be your lockee the other day. I'm now in contact with a RL Mistress who'll hold on to the keys for me (starting this weekend) for Her amusement. It gives me just a little bit arousal and realistic game play when She is in total control.....

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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2021, 08:06:22 PM »
thats amazing news, im glad the vaseline is helping.im glad you have found a offline keyholder as irl chastity is 1000% better than online so enjoy
mean but nice curriouslhock on recon

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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2021, 05:30:08 PM »
I've had all kinds of pains with ball trap devices, so much so that in general, I have purchased real chastity belts, where the strain is taken by a belt around the waist rather than the testicles. The problem is that these devices are more difficult to buy, more expensive and bulkier to wear and store.

Recently though, I've been having some success by strapping the ball trap ring firmly to the groin, so it doesn't put strain on the balls. I have one strap which passes through the ring at the bottom and then goes between my legs and encircles the waist around my belly button, and another which passes through the ring at the top and encircles the waist to the rear. Keep those tight and the device is kept next to the groin, with no tension on the balls.

It's still a bit experimental, but it seems the only discomfort I'm getting now is the normal natural discomfort when I try to get hard.

Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2021, 11:53:08 AM »
I've found the hinge rings to be a bit more comfortable than the full circle ones if you get what I mean. Different materials too - one of my cages is semi flexible and it is a lot more comfortable than the solid plastic/metal cage I have as it can deal with the increasing/decreasing size of my bits over time.

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Re: reduce pain during lockup
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2021, 04:56:52 PM »
Based on trying many originals and knockoffs over the last years, this is my summary of experiences regarding pain. I cover only ball trapping cages here.

1. Poor finishing: This is a major issue with several of the knockoffs. If you can feel a ridge on any part that is going to be in contact with your body, it WILL create irritation. How bad it is depends on the body part, the pressure and the length of the wear.

2. Sensitive skin: Let us face it, some of the skin in contact with your chastity lock is pretty darn sensitive. If you lubricate the contact areas, the lube itself may have some mild irritant (like perfume) in it and may actually increase the irritation. Soap residue is REALLY bad. Even mild soaps can be enough to cause an irritation. Make sure you rinse very properly after washing. The only lubricant that I have not had any reaction to is good ol' water-free Vaseline.

3. Erections: The first rules of avoiding painful erections are mentioned in 1 and 2 above. However: When your penis pushes the tube out, you will stretch your ball sack, and the bottom of it will be stretched more than the rest. This creates an unpleasant but not damaging sore point (unless you are in a cheap knockoff with sharp ridges). The pain usually goes away when the erection goes down. Cold showers work well for this.

4. Unusual stuff hanging from your most sensitive parts: All the pains will eventually - unless you break the skin - subside. You toughen up. It hurts less. But this takes time and does involve some pain in the process. By time I mean at least a week or two - sometimes a month or two. While you get used to things, you must bear the pain. It is easier if someone holds your keys - takes away your choice in the matter. Just remember: If erections hurt - you ARE in a chastity device. You can consider the pain as punishment for thinking "impure thoughts" - if that helps.

5. Wrongly sized and/or shaped ring: People go for smaller rings to prevent pull-out. That is not always the smartest thing to do. A too tight ring WILL cause pain, and may even (worse) reduce or cut off blood supply to your balls. You don't want that to happen unless you are looking to castrate yourself. The ring should fit around your balls and confirm to your anatomical shape. That means curves and not straight sides. It means no bottom hinges that pinch or dig into your scrotum. But even more importantly: What matters most for most men is really the distance between the lowest point of the penis tube and the top inner point of the ring. I have slept with Cobra style (knockoffs) chastity devices and have had my cage fall off while I was asleep. This happens when this critical distance is too large and/or the cage has flexibility allowing it to be bent out. The Holy Trainer (especially the V4) has a very low clearance here while still allowing enough space to maintain circulation. It is the device I ended up with. It works for me.

6. Penis tube size/length: The more erect you get in the cage, the more it places strain on the bottom of your ball sack. Some handle this by having extremely short cages. For me that sort of worked, I no longer got pains in the bottom of my ball sack, but I got pains in my penis instead. And no amounts of Vaseline helped against that pain. So yeah - you need to find what works for you. Some of us needs to be allowed some expansion to avoid pain. Several of the devices offers different sizes of penis tubes. Experiment to find what suits you. If you go for knockoffs, you should really use a fine sand paper (wet paper) to make sure you sand out any sharp edges.

In summary: One size does not fit all. Penises are very different apart from the obvious matter of size. Some expand mostly in length, some mostly in thickness, some in both. Some point up, down, out or to a side. Some have a large head, some have a small one. Some are circumcised, some are not. Some are straight, some are bent. Some are very sensitive, some are less so. You need to find what suits you.

Most men can achieve excellent security with the right ball trapping cage. The ball trappers also offers some great benefits, like they can be non-metallic, they are lightweight, they can be hidden under clothing and they really don't restrict movement (that much). However, If you want the absolutely most secure solution - go for a frenum or PA piercing with a matching tube or for a full chastity belt. If you chose the later - that is a totally different story, one I may get back to. And yes, I have a Carrara Concept belt - extremely secure - and you can even sun bathe in it without really showing up any "naughty parts".

I hope this can be of help to newcomers in this wonderful chastity fetish world.

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