What lockbox do you use?

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What lockbox do you use?
« on: January 15, 2018, 10:34:43 PM »
Ok so I have the basic masterlock wall mount lockbox for keys.

I have been looking around for something that requires additional numbers to get it open with not much luck. My device only needs 4 numbers and I find that too easy to remember.

Has anyone found a better device out there?



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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2018, 10:52:02 PM »
I've had one of these before but you'd need a metal cash/key box to attach it to, or a chest and keep the key in that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oria-Combination-Resettable-Security-Material/dp/B0749BM9WX/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1516056524&sr=8-2

I never found one with more than 5 digits so moved to a cheap digital safe.

I know you're asking what do we use but I also considered one of these but I wasn't sure what the maximum number of digits was allowed. Tried too many locks and was disappointed so never got to try this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PREMIUM-Outside-Combination-Resistant-Workplace/dp/B01CWQXSGM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1516056956&sr=8-4
« Last Edit: January 15, 2018, 11:42:53 PM by KevinCross »
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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 05:51:34 PM »
My device only needs 4 numbers and I find that too easy to remember.


My device has only 3 nubers. I handle like this. I choose 6 nubers. I brake the 6 nubers down to 3x2 nubers( for example: 12  34  56). Then i lok at 2 nobers at the same time, but i only use the secend one. (in this example i look at 12 sey 12 und put 2 on the first place on the lockdevice. then i look at 34 and put 4 on the lockdevice. The same with 56. This givs a Key of 246.) Becous i never look at this thee numbers at the same time i cant remamber.

I hope you understand.If not just ask.
May someone can translate it to proper English... ^^

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 06:09:44 PM »
If it helps I could always do something similar to what TimeLock used to do for combination locks which was tell you to put the combination to a particular number and then tell you to spin each wheel up and down a number of times. So for example it would say something like this:

* Put the combination to 2463
* Turn the second dial up 3
* Turn the fourth dial down 1
* Turn the first dial up 5
* Turn the second dial down 2
... and so and so on.

I don't have a combination lock to hand to see which way the numbers increase but lets assume turn a dial up would increase the number than from those steps alone I think you'd have this combination: 7562

I never introduced this because it doesn't work with digital safes. I don't know if something similar could be used for safes with the one spinning dial as I've never used one of those safes so I don't know how they work.

Who used TimeLock and the random steps it gave you to set a combination lock? Did it help? I never used it but remember it being an option and had a brief look at it.

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 09:42:42 PM »
I love this idea!
If it helps I could always do something similar to what TimeLock used to do for combination locks which was tell you to put the combination to a particular number and then tell you to spin each wheel up and down a number of times. So for example it would say something like this:

* Put the combination to 2463
* Turn the second dial up 3
* Turn the fourth dial down 1
* Turn the first dial up 5
* Turn the second dial down 2
... and so and so on.

I don't have a combination lock to hand to see which way the numbers increase but lets assume turn a dial up would increase the number than from those steps alone I think you'd have this combination: 7562

I never introduced this because it doesn't work with digital safes. I don't know if something similar could be used for safes with the one spinning dial as I've never used one of those safes so I don't know how they work.

Who used TimeLock and the random steps it gave you to set a combination lock? Did it help? I never used it but remember it being an option and had a brief look at it.

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 10:07:35 AM »
Was just checking out this thread in the hope to find a good lockbox.
I found this one on Amazon
https://www.amazon.de/Schl%C3%BCsseltresor-Schl%C3%BCsselschrank-Schl%C3%BCsselkasten-Zahlenschloss-Schl%C3%BCsselsafe/dp/B06XY29FN9/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XY29FN9&pd_rd_r=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA&pd_rd_w=Sgmqd&pd_rd_wg=2S9Rj&psc=1&refRID=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA

but don't quite understand how safe it is. I say that I only can use each number once, but doesn't make it that "very" easy to brute force an 8 digit code?

Did anyone get some good recommendations? The Keyholes are 5mm in case of a Ringlock...

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 12:47:37 PM »
I got myself a lockbox like this one:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076WCDTMF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1
Alas, the 4-digit-code may be a little short, but the box itself seems to be solid and reliable enough. (I cannot really evaluate the box that at the moment, I have only used it for a month now)

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 03:37:13 PM »
I got myself a lockbox like this one:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076WCDTMF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1
Alas, the 4-digit-code may be a little short, but the box itself seems to be solid and reliable enough. (I cannot really evaluate the box that at the moment, I have only used it for a month now)
Aside from it only being a 4 digit code those boxes are ok because you have to spin the dials and then pull down the lever to test it so you can't just keep spinning the 4 dials and pull on the lid/door until it unlocks which you can do with most combination padlocks.
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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 03:40:03 PM »
Was just checking out this thread in the hope to find a good lockbox.
I found this one on Amazon
https://www.amazon.de/Schl%C3%BCsseltresor-Schl%C3%BCsselschrank-Schl%C3%BCsselkasten-Zahlenschloss-Schl%C3%BCsselsafe/dp/B06XY29FN9/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XY29FN9&pd_rd_r=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA&pd_rd_w=Sgmqd&pd_rd_wg=2S9Rj&psc=1&refRID=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA

but don't quite understand how safe it is. I say that I only can use each number once, but doesn't make it that "very" easy to brute force an 8 digit code?
I looked at one like this before on Amazon but never did buy one. I don't think I was 100% certain the number of digits you could type in at once.

Even if you can't have the same number more than once in the combination and if it allows an 8 digit combination that's still quite a lot of combinations. I wouldn't want to have to sit there and try them all.
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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 06:32:39 PM »
Have a look on eBay for '8 digit safe' loads from 15 GBP and I defy anyone to remember an 8 digit number.

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 08:53:56 AM »
I got myself a lockbox like this one:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076WCDTMF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1
Alas, the 4-digit-code may be a little short, but the box itself seems to be solid and reliable enough. (I cannot really evaluate the box that at the moment, I have only used it for a month now)

I have a box identical to this with a different brand name.

It's really easy to setup.

Seems very secure as it only opens when the button is pressed on the correct combo. It also seems you nees to release the button to rotate the dials so this slows down any attenpt to brute force the code.

Amazon seem to do regular offers on these in the UK.

Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2018, 02:20:17 AM »
I 3d printed a 7 digit version of this combination box: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:586169

Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2018, 10:30:31 PM »
Was just checking out this thread in the hope to find a good lockbox.
I found this one on Amazon
https://www.amazon.de/Schl%C3%BCsseltresor-Schl%C3%BCsselschrank-Schl%C3%BCsselkasten-Zahlenschloss-Schl%C3%BCsselsafe/dp/B06XY29FN9/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XY29FN9&pd_rd_r=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA&pd_rd_w=Sgmqd&pd_rd_wg=2S9Rj&psc=1&refRID=RDABEHQ06AGZWEW8WXDA

but don't quite understand how safe it is. I say that I only can use each number once, but doesn't make it that "very" easy to brute force an 8 digit code?

Did anyone get some good recommendations? The Keyholes are 5mm in case of a Ringlock...

That is the one I use and here is how you can use it. I do mines with a six number combo. Even tho it will only activate 1 each time meaning no doubles, you can still press the number twice and it will act activated. You can do the combo in any order for example lets say the app gives you 12314. you can set it to 1234 and when you unlock you still can use that 1 twice.

Lets say the code is 43211. it will unlock in that order or even revered that. It will trigger the first time u hit 1 but, you hit 1 again it will just ignore that press as 1 already been press so its fine.

so you can make the combo a 7 digit I think is the max the app allows.

That box worked for me like a charm and because I did 6 digit numbers and set it real quick and lock it quickly and use the forgot combo method, I cannot remember the combo if my life depended on it.

Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2018, 10:07:50 PM »
Everyone with a 3D-Printer:

I've published my lockbox few minutes ago on thingiverse. You can use this box as option to kill time until your amazon order is delivered or as regular lockbox.

This box is safe, also. I promise. I have to know, because I peeled the support out of the grooves. It tooks quite more than a hour.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3192390

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Re: What lockbox do you use?
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2018, 11:07:06 PM »
I wonder if you could create a variation that takes two locks (one at each end, or both at one end?).  That way someone who wants to use a two-holder lockup could use one lock for holder 1 and one lock for holder 2.

I don't have any 3D design skills, otherwise I'd give it a go!
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