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Title: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Randitv on June 30, 2020, 07:46:02 AM
I love this app and have had a lot of fun with it. Following a great fixed lock with a keyholder, I started a fixed lock with a bot for the first time after always doing variable locks with the bot.

I chose Zoe, removed limitations, and picked a 2-3 day starting duration. It started at 2 days 21 hours, and now, two days later it’s at 4 days 22 hours remaining. Zoe has added significant time three times and frozen the lock once so far.

I’ll take my medicine but my question is: can this routine of remaining time increasing go on indefinitely or are the odds that at some point she’ll decrease time?

Thanks for this incredible app.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: kinkycdx12 on July 01, 2020, 09:00:40 PM
Zoe has a mind of her own  :o
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: spc78 on July 01, 2020, 09:28:56 PM
Zoe and Chase are both mean... and you'll know that by the end of your lock!
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Randitv on July 03, 2020, 05:20:25 AM
Clearly. I’m well past my max start time and have more time left than when I started!
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Charon on July 03, 2020, 12:48:50 PM
Same for me. I think zoe became meaner over the time i use the App.
I started with a 12 day fixed lock. Now after 11 days, severeal times frozen (in total 3 days), zoe still keeps adding time and actually i have still 53 days to go. Guess i will be locker longer than expected. ;)
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: KevinCross on July 04, 2020, 04:16:37 PM
The total locked times is based on a number of things. If you set the max time as 12 days then you won't be locked for 53 days. If you set the lock to pick a time between 7 days and 4 months and the lock started with 12 days then there's a very big chance you will be locked for way longer than 12 days. I don't know what settings you chose when creating the lock but they use the time you were given, and the maximum time you was willing to go to. Calculate the median, do some random rolls and could take you either side of that median.

How far over or under depends on the bot, and how often you've locked with them before and how often a real keyholder makes certain updates like unlocking someone.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Randitv on July 05, 2020, 12:34:11 AM
Thanks! I picked 2-3 days and I’m almost seven days in with three days to go. Eager to see how this ends.  :)
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Randitv on July 05, 2020, 05:53:48 AM
The lesson I’ve learned is to never “trust” Zoe or Chase.

Almost 7 days ago I chose a 2-3 day lock. 2 days and 22 hours was what it began as.

6 days ago she added 1 day, 2 hours.

5 days ago she added 1 day, 7 hours - and froze the lock for 9 hours.

4 days ago she added 18 hours.

3 days ago she reset the lock.

2 days ago she added 1 day, 11 hours.

1 day ago she added 1 day, 8 hours.

Today she added 1 day, 11 hours.

Lesson learned.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Charon on July 06, 2020, 04:51:34 PM
Well, at least i have learned that zoe/chase are now the kind of bot as they are described. Mean. When i tried the bots earlier all bots released me before the lock was completed. Sometimes zoe got a little over the time, but not more than 5-10%.
A real keyholder can lock you on friday and say you are released on sunday. 2 days later he/she says: oh, i didn't mean today, release is on next sunday.
So i think the bots developed in a good way. More unpredictable. And playing with desperation as you see the timer just goes in one direction (up) is part of the game and makes the bots more realistic.
By the way i started with an exact 12 days lock, have now 14 days completed and still 68 to go. (When zoe reads this the time will surely go up a little more :P )
Compared to randitv's lock i think zoe Sets me free after 24-36 days. At least i hope so.  ;)
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Randitv on July 07, 2020, 06:46:30 AM
I still had 5 days left after 7 days and tried lockbox combinations til I got it right (after 3000 tries). I have a hard stop later this week and couldn’t risk it. I’m not convinced I ever would’ve been released.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: lmax42 on July 09, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
I love playing with Zoe... One major bummer is that sometimes, she just unlocks you around the time the lock is due, instead of "keep going", depriving you of the joy of finally finding the green card...

The thing I've started doing is start TWO locks in parallel, one is Zoe's, the other one is a fixed lock, the max amount of time I'm prepared to wait...  My masterlock keyvault can be programmed with two combinations at the same time.

That way, if Zoe exceeds expectations, I can get out through my fixed lock eventually (or I can reset it or increase it if I figure out I'm handling things nicely in the end).
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: lmax42 on July 09, 2020, 06:14:23 PM
RandyTV: did you remove security keys ?... it's generally a good idea to keep them, OR have a backup key.

I usually set the amount reasonably high (depending on your finances of course) so that I won't be tempted to use it in a hurry.

Something really expensive, but not insanely so, like spend 200€ on your electronic mistress ;)
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Vancanlock2085 on July 13, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
I’m still running a test lick with Zoe. I started with a 1 day to 1 week duration and removed the limitations. Zoe creates five locks and there are still two left running. I can’t begin to count the amount of times the timer has been hidden, frozen, reset besides all the times she has added time to my locks. I’m currently at 14 days with the test lock and counting. She did remove small amounts of time about two or three times now but I’m not sure how long she’ll go before revealing the two remaining combinations.

I’ll be careful when I do an actual lock with her.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Tlhummel127 on July 14, 2020, 02:52:08 PM
I started my first lock with Zoe about 5 weeks ago. It's a fixed lock and I trust her. Well, all she did is adding weeks after weeks after weeks. Nearly freezing the lock everyday for a median of 12 hours, and hiding the timer. last time I saw it, I was at 380ish days left!

I set a duration between 3-6 weeks, so I will wait a little longer, but I'm slowly getting nuts...
Whatever her programming is based of, I just hope for an "early" release which some of you are complaining about. :o

This is allready the longest time I've ever been locked up. :(
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: Vancanlock2085 on July 15, 2020, 03:57:33 AM
Well in my test lock I’m down to two of five locks she created. The first is steady at 5 days and some change. Each time it’s about to count down to 4 days she adds enough to make it shy of 6 days.

The next lock is pretty much the same but hovering at 9 days.

For both locks she freezes or hides the timer pretty much every other day.

Not sure I’ll do a lock with her with the settings to trust her. These were all fixed locks.

Both have been locked fo 16 days and counting.
Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: DogMike on July 31, 2020, 11:04:47 PM
I hadn't used the app in a while and decided to see what had changed.

I did a fixed lock with Chase as a test. I think I gave it between 5-10 days as the min/max range, but at this point, I am not really sure. When it started it showed it would be locked around 6 days.

The first few days, Chase froze the lock, unfroze it, froze it again, added a few hours, reset the lock.

Then after three of four days, he started adding a day to the lock every 20-30 hours.

The past several days, he has been adding 2-3 days at a time.

It is now on day 20 with 35 days left.

I am not sure it will ever end unless he randomly unlocks it. I am glad this was only a test. I don't mind a few surprises, but to have a lock go 4x longer than initially set is crazy when you can't have any discussion with the keyholder.

Title: Re: Outcome of Fixed Lock w Zoe
Post by: lmax42 on August 01, 2020, 10:35:14 PM
If things go that way, you can always talk to Kevin. He can "talk" to the bot and convince it to release the lock ;)