I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2018, 02:02:01 AM »
Was thinking about this today.  Perhaps the numbers could be presented out of order.

Ex: Set dial 3 to 8.  Click next.  Set dial 1 to 0.  Click next.  Set dial 2 to 7.  Click next.  Set dial 4 to 8.

Not sure if that would help.


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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2018, 07:31:41 AM »
Was thinking about this today.  Perhaps the numbers could be presented out of order.

Ex: Set dial 3 to 8.  Click next.  Set dial 1 to 0.  Click next.  Set dial 2 to 7.  Click next.  Set dial 4 to 8.

Not sure if that would help.

From a logic point of view this could possibly be streamlined by showing:

??8?
0???
?7??
???8

I assume this would make it harder to refresh to a new combination especially if each digit was paged.
I can kind of see that the concept might trick the brain into thinking it has to remember 4 sequences.

Alternatively what if a number grid was used with the number in bold you should use:

2385
0853
7274
6348

Not sure if either of these approaches would required a change in behavior for the random numbers screen with it showing random grids or wildcard number sequences.


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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2018, 08:38:14 AM »
8 number digital safes are the cheapest, simplest solution.

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2018, 06:36:23 PM »
8 digit safes can be big and bulky if you choose to travel with your keybox as your emergency release option.

I can't say I've seen any decent 8 digit keyboxes.

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2018, 09:02:41 PM »
Random thought, but for 4 digit codes how about trying an 8 digit combination (let's say the app gives you this 52790236) and then doing the following:

Set the combination to something like 5703 (the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th digit)
Then scroll the first dial up 2 (the 2nd digit in the 8 digit combination)
The second dial down 9 (the 4th digit in the 8 digit combination)
The third dial up 2 (the 6th digit in the 8 digit combination)
The forth dial down 6  (the 8th digit in the 8 digit combination)

You can come up with any form of pattern like this using the numbers in the 8 digit combination provided by the app and I don't think you'd remember the numbers. You'd need to settle on a pattern and write it down though so that when you come to unlocking you'll be able to recreate it by starting from the original number 5703

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2018, 10:42:58 PM »
Random thought, but for 4 digit codes how about trying an 8 digit combination (let's say the app gives you this 52790236) and then doing the following:

Set the combination to something like 5703 (the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th digit)
Then scroll the first dial up 2 (the 2nd digit in the 8 digit combination)
The second dial down 9 (the 4th digit in the 8 digit combination)
The third dial up 2 (the 6th digit in the 8 digit combination)
The forth dial down 6  (the 8th digit in the 8 digit combination)

You can come up with any form of pattern like this using the numbers in the 8 digit combination provided by the app and I don't think you'd remember the numbers. You'd need to settle on a pattern and write it down though so that when you come to unlocking you'll be able to recreate it by starting from the original number 5703

Something like this may have already been mentioned in the last 4 pages of this post.

This is certainly a good option. I do like the idea of multipart combinations

A slightly complex idea which combines this with my grid idea above using colour combinations instead of bolded numbers. Will take a bit of work so I doubt it is worth considering for now but I'll share the basic premise.

Basically users could be shown 4 number sequences in 4 different colours.

Users who like to keep things simple just pick one of the number sequences in the colour of there choosing.

A random colour sequence code would also be generated to specify which digits come from which colour sequence. Simple users may use the first colour to choose there number sequence.

Now if the 4 different colour number sequences were arranged in the shape of a cross then the coloured sequence could be provided as arrows indicating which way to rotate the dials. The number of rotations would match the number at top or bottom.

Bit of a puzzle but may be complex enough to help people to forget. I probably need to mock up an image so it makes sense.

You could also turn it into a multiple choice mini game as a way of helping those forget by getting users to identify which of 4 combinations was generated by the instructions being displayed.

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2018, 12:57:12 AM »
Hello All,

Something I've found that helps this problem. I scan the QR code, choose all the settings I want to change, click on next and quickly set my lock box to the code provided. Then I cover the code on my phone with a piece of paper. I then go and put on my device (takes a little time). When I return to my phone, the keys are already locked up, I click next without moving the paper. As soon the numbers star filling the screen I read aloud all the numbers I can.

By changing the order of when I set the lock, put on the device and create the lock, it seems to work pretty good.

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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2018, 01:06:42 PM »
One advantage of old age is a swiss cheese memory.  Unless I take special measures to remember the code, it's gone within minutes.  I don't even bother with the 30 second jumble.  I just go about my business and have no chance of remembering the code. 
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Re: I can still remember my code after the screen of flashing numbers
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2018, 10:03:55 AM »
When you get the code on chastikey, dont read it out loud, just adjust the lock and lock it and turn the numbers, then read all the numbers you can from the chastikey.com app, and take pen and paper, now you start turning the numbers on the lock and read out sets of numbers, plus you type them on the paper also as you read them out, this way you are programming your brain with new numbers for the lock, maybe you need 50 numbers or 200 numbers, its something you have to find out your self
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